charleslb wrote:
The capitalist system was designed from the start with total and cynical disregard for the deeper justice of existence. Its contempt for ethical and spiritual values always ranges from being thinly veiled to shamelessly in your face, but is never absent. No, capitalism is not a progressive idea that’s been perverted, rather it’s a perversion of the enlightened idea that the individual has an unalienable right to seek self-fulfillment into a justification for unjust greed. A greed that today has a small club of modern-day billionaire robber barons consigning and condemning the majority of humanity to one degree of poverty or another.
How true. The moral superiority of socialist values over capitalist values is self evident.
I'm personally an atheist, although I like the Christ and Buddha. Churches distort, in my view, the socialist message of the Christ to the point where it's an insult to my intelligence. They worship, but generally do not imitate or genuinely try to follow the teachings, of the Christ. I like that you mention Buddhist insights into interbeing and codependent origination, but although you mention liberation theology you don't delve into the things that make Christ a socialist.
This is important because, even for those of us who are not believers, Christ is sometimes a cultural hero (just look at atheist writer Richard Dawkins and his 'Atheists for Jesus' movement): Christ embodies a certain education in human values that we underwent as we were raised and I feel that the socialist ardor that we see today in many Latin American societies is the ripened fruit of Christ's message. There is no separation in the minds of Chavez and the indigenous residents of Chiapas between Christ's message and socialism.
To be specific:
1. He didn't believe in private property. He told his followers to carry only their sandals.
2. He had no use for money in his kingdom, saying instead 'render un Caesar what is Caesars' refering to the face on the coin.
3. He specifically said that his message was FOR THE POOR and for the poor only.
4. Most importantly: He told the rich man that he would have to SELL EVERYTHING and give it all to the poor before he could call himself a follower of Christ. This is, in essence, a socialist revolution and it's a pre-requirement for Christianity. What this means is that in his kingdom,
there are to be no social classes and that everyone must share the class consciousness of the poor.
5. You mention that lack of community and human values are the side effects of capitalism and its symptoms. In the Gospels the prostituting and corrupting of humanity, of religion and of morals due to money and profit and wealth is tackled time and again in a very direct way: Jesus turned over the tables of the merchants in the temple, who were selling innocent animals to be killed for the sins of humans; Jesus criticized the value the priests placed on the gold in their temple in Matthew 23 and how they seemed to place more value in the gold than in the god who made the gold and the temple holy; and then Jesus himself was sold to his enemy by Judas.
We all know how today religion is big business: Mormons and Evangelicals are among the wealthiest interest groups in the nation. In the Middle Ages, the Catholic priests sold 'indulgences' to the rich for forgiveness of sin: there was no sin that was not forgiveable if you were wealthy enough. This is a problem that has pervaded religion throughout its history: money always corrupts religion. Period. End of story.
These are not incidental, but fundamental, aspects of Jesus' career as a prophet and of his teaching, and these points are eluscidated eloquently in the history of religion. The central message of Christ was revolutionary, but this revolution was kept in check throughout history usually by the same religious authorities that claimed to represent the message ...
If Marx, Trotsky and most proponents of socialism were atheists, as critics of liberation theology often (rightfully) claim, it's because they saw how the Christian message was taken over by people with dominant-class interests.
Hence the importance of liberation theology. For me, as an atheist, these are clear facts, but believers have difficulty dealing with these facts and liberation theology is a means to encourage a more honest dialogue about what people do with their religion when they get religious. We can use it as an opiate, or we can use religion, like Jesus the Christ and Siddhartha the Buddha, to awaken ...